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2020 Ioniq

Posted: Fri, 03 May 2019, 17:57
by AngieD
Is it true that the 2020 Ioniq really is going to be released in Australia at the end of 2019? The upgraded battery can do 293kms apparently. Why wouldn't we wait for that instead of following through with our order placed this week for one that only does 230kms?

Re: 2020 Ioniq

Posted: Fri, 03 May 2019, 21:10
by jamie85063
We may not get it for a while yet and the price may increase with the bigger battery. If you must have the extra range maybe you should wait. Though being you have ordered one you must be fine with the current range the car can do.

Re: 2020 Ioniq

Posted: Fri, 03 May 2019, 21:21
by AngieD
Thanks Jamie, we were happy but if there is a chance to improve the range I guess that would always be a good thing. We will go with our current order of course, but the question needed to be asked. LOL

Re: 2020 Ioniq

Posted: Sat, 04 May 2019, 07:48
by coulomb
AngieD wrote:
Fri, 03 May 2019, 17:57
2020 Ioniq really is going to be released in Australia at the end of 2019?
I have no idea. But remember that Australia is the backwater of electric vehicles. Just look at how far behind the latest model the Leaf you can buy in Australia is.

And the Leaf is Japanese, so right hand drive like ours. Korea is right hand drive, so we'd have to wait for the left hand model to come out, in addition to any delays that being in Australia entails. Maybe it's the exact same car body, but I'd guess that there are a few wrinkles that have to be ironed out for left hand drive, even just increasing the battery capacity.

Re: 2020 Ioniq

Posted: Sun, 05 May 2019, 16:24
by Hippie403
There is a gotcha with the 38.3kWh Ioniq, slower DC charging rates due to different cell chemistry and lower pack voltage. Someone has done some back of the envelope calculations showing the 28kWh model can cover long distances faster than the 2020 model due to the slower charging rate (providing the charging stations are close enough together for the range of the 28kWh car).

Re: 2020 Ioniq

Posted: Tue, 07 May 2019, 07:31
by Chuq
Hippie403 wrote:
Sun, 05 May 2019, 16:24
There is a gotcha with the 38.3kWh Ioniq, slower DC charging rates due to different cell chemistry
Really? All reports I've read suggest 100kW DC charging.

Re: 2020 Ioniq

Posted: Tue, 07 May 2019, 16:01
by Hippie403
Chuq wrote:
Tue, 07 May 2019, 07:31
Really? All reports I've read suggest 100kW DC charging.
The pack voltage is down from 360V in the 28kWh pack to 320V in the 38.3kWh pack. On a 100kW charger time to 80% 28kWh pack 23 minutes, time to 80% 38.3kWh pack 54 minutes. I compute average charge power 34kW for new pack versus 58kW for the old pack. Charge times from official Hyundai spec sheets.

Re: 2020 Ioniq

Posted: Tue, 07 May 2019, 16:14
by UltraGekko
Hippie403 wrote:
Tue, 07 May 2019, 16:01
On a 100kW charger time to 80% 28kWh pack 23 minutes, time to 80% 38.3kWh pack 54 minutes.
Isn't this expected since 80% of the old pack is 22.4kWh and 80% of the new pack is 30.64kWh? How long would it take to charge the new pack to 22.4kWh (~58%)?

Re: 2020 Ioniq

Posted: Tue, 07 May 2019, 17:10
by Hippie403
UltraGekko wrote:
Tue, 07 May 2019, 16:14
Hippie403 wrote:
Tue, 07 May 2019, 16:01
On a 100kW charger time to 80% 28kWh pack 23 minutes, time to 80% 38.3kWh pack 54 minutes.
Isn't this expected since 80% of the old pack is 22.4kWh and 80% of the new pack is 30.64kWh? How long would it take to charge the new pack to 22.4kWh (~58%)?
Hard to say without knowing the actual charging curve, but based on the average charging rate it would be 39 minutes.

Re: 2020 Ioniq

Posted: Fri, 13 Sep 2019, 19:02
by g4qber
https://youtu.be/GsWq_YrbDhs

Shieeet slow dc
Thanks uncle bjørn for info.