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Volt $2.50 to fill? But it costs more to run

Posted: Sat, 03 Aug 2013, 06:45
by g4qber

Volt $2.50 to fill? But it costs more to run

Posted: Sat, 03 Aug 2013, 16:21
by coulomb
Well, they say it "costs more to run" than a medium sized SUV. But it's really the purchase cost that takes more than 5 years to make back at today's petrol prices.

Plus, this is a car with a petrol engine, with all the maintenance that goes with that. You may not use the engine much, so it may not wear out as fast, but it will still need oil changes about as frequently as any other car, it seems to me.

I suppose many people will change their cars after five years or even less. For them, yes, this car won't save them money at today's fuel prices. But petrol relative to electricity (especially solar electricity) may not stay as cheap. And people buy cars based on many factors other than the initial purchase price.

Volt $2.50 to fill? But it costs more to run

Posted: Fri, 27 Dec 2013, 22:27
by Al-Bunzel
It appears the purchase price of the vehicle has been included in the calculations.
If that is the case, then the article has merit.
In her article, it also says that if you can pick one up for $50k and you drive 60km a day then you might save money.

At the end of the day, the high price tag of the Volt in Australia is unjustified when the same car in USA is significantly cheaper (even before all the tax rebates).

Besides, with Holden and Ford closing their manufacturing plants in the near future, I see the potential for a lot of retrenched workers getting involved in the modified car scene which includes Electric Car Conversions, especially when the price of the Volt is unjustifiably high.

Volt $2.50 to fill? But it costs more to run

Posted: Fri, 27 Dec 2013, 23:35
by BigMouse
Al-Bunzel wrote:At the end of the day, the high price tag of the Volt in Australia is unjustified when the same car in USA is significantly cheaper (even before all the tax rebates).
The price of the Volt in Australia is one of the few for imported cars that I can see as justifiable. The pre-incentive price in the US is $40k. The exchange rate and shipping alone bring that to AU$50k. Compliance costs amortized over a small volume would make up the rest. At the time I asked a rep at the Sydney Motor Show last year, I was told GM only had plans to bring 500 Volts to Australia.

Edit: It's also likely that the Australian version is not the base trim model available in the US.

Volt $2.50 to fill? But it costs more to run

Posted: Sat, 28 Dec 2013, 00:27
by marty11
The australian Version has all the options -- fully optioned - -leather seats, safety 1 and 2, and can be bought for $54000 on the road. .most U.S. prices exclude on road costs, some also exlude taxes.

Here is a link from someone who drove a Volt 10000 miles for $300 .

cheap to run 10000 miles on Volt Only Cost was $300

Some people pay Less per km because they have solar electricity already.

Some pay more, you get the idea. .but its still pretty cheap.

Volt $2.50 to fill? But it costs more to run

Posted: Sun, 29 Dec 2013, 03:55
by Al-Bunzel
BigMouse wrote:
Al-Bunzel wrote:At the end of the day, the high price tag of the Volt in Australia is unjustified when the same car in USA is significantly cheaper (even before all the tax rebates).
The price of the Volt in Australia is one of the few for imported cars that I can see as justifiable. The pre-incentive price in the US is $40k. The exchange rate and shipping alone bring that to AU$50k. Compliance costs amortized over a small volume would make up the rest. At the time I asked a rep at the Sydney Motor Show last year, I was told GM only had plans to bring 500 Volts to Australia.

Edit: It's also likely that the Australian version is not the base trim model available in the US.

marty11 wrote: The australian Version has all the options -- fully optioned - -leather seats, safety 1 and 2, and can be bought for $54000 on the road. .most U.S. prices exclude on road costs, some also exlude taxes.

I can see your perspective on why the price of the Volt in Australia is justified and what has been said by BigMouse and marty11 makes sense.

It would be nice if GM brought in the base model and a lot more of them, instead of limiting them to 500.

If the base model was brought in and in higher volumes, what do you think is a fair price?

Volt $2.50 to fill? But it costs more to run

Posted: Sun, 29 Dec 2013, 13:26
by marty11
yes definitely would have gone for a cheaper model Volt .

Leather Seats and Safety Package 1 and 2 I could easily have lived without. I just wanted the technology at that time.

I would have gone the cheapest model available, for the Volt for sure.

One thing I liked though ws the 0.5 % lease finance I got as a fluke when I bought it. I had negotiated a price down to $54000, then saw an ad on the TV for 0.5%.

The dealer didnt tell me about it, and the deal only went for about a week, but it was a good deal.