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Nissan Ariya

Posted: Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 21:04
by coulomb
Nissan has announced a new EV at the Tokyo motor show, but it's not a Leaf. So this forum had to change name from "Nissan Leaf" to just "Nissan".



https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/d ... ts-121222/

https://www.caradvice.com.au/802639/nis ... a-concept/

The charge port is no longer at the front! It seems to be at either side now (DC fast charge port one side, AC charge port on the other side). At least it's near the front (just ahead of the door, near the top of the bonnet).

Edit: It looks like active cooling for the 85 kWh battery.

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 09:18
by T1 Terry
85kWh battery, where will this end, a battery with more range than the person driving the vehicle or the comfort limit of the passengers?

T1 Terry

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 14:39
by PiMan
It all depends on how efficient the car is. Maybe there'll be a big ol' parachute on the back and it will have less range than the original Leaf.

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 18:17
by coulomb
PiMan wrote:
Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 14:39
Maybe ... it will have less range than the original Leaf.
I believe that they're claiming 480 km (300 mi) WLTP.

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Sat, 26 Oct 2019, 07:37
by HuffnPuff
T1 Terry wrote:
Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 09:18
85kWh battery, where will this end, a battery with more range than the person driving the vehicle or the comfort limit of the passengers?

T1 Terry
It seems the marketers have cottoned into range anxiety and we have an arms race for the best range. Once everyone recognises they won’t need that range th battery size will probably come down, along with the total cost of the vehicle and the effociency will rise with lower weight.

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Sat, 26 Oct 2019, 10:58
by T1 Terry
The 85kWh battery would make an amazing off grid battery for when the vehicle was parked up ...... I'd love to be able to buy a Kona and work through making a plug and play set up to use that big battery pack in an off grid set up that supplemented a small permanent battery pack that kept the system alive while the EV wasn't plugged in.

T1 Terry

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Sun, 27 Oct 2019, 03:14
by HuffnPuff
T1 Terry wrote:
Sat, 26 Oct 2019, 10:58
The 85kWh battery would make an amazing off grid battery for when the vehicle was parked up ...... I'd love to be able to buy a Kona and work through making a plug and play set up to use that big battery pack in an off grid set up that supplemented a small permanent battery pack that kept the system alive while the EV wasn't plugged in.

T1 Terry
That sort of setup could lead to ducking down to the shops to buy some sparks, not milk. It’s strange that we are obsessed with cars that use much more energy as a house full of people.

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Mon, 28 Oct 2019, 09:02
by antiscab
HuffnPuff wrote:
Sun, 27 Oct 2019, 03:14
It’s strange that we are obsessed with cars that use much more energy as a house full of people.
To be fair, cars have always used more energy than a house, they were just powered differently

Though most of the energy used in a house is embodied in nature, rather than used at the house.
https://theconversation.com/how-to-neut ... int-103922

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Mon, 28 Oct 2019, 12:25
by Richo
And the HPV air records using <1000W at over 40kph equates to 1/6 the energy used by an electric car.
Stop driving - start flying :lol:

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Mon, 28 Oct 2019, 14:18
by antiscab
the 2 seat pipstrel uses about the same amount of energy as a nissan leaf.

to be honest I really want to learn to fly, just so that I can fly down south on electricity, and not have to be bored in a car.

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Mon, 28 Oct 2019, 14:59
by T1 Terry
HuffnPuff wrote:
Sun, 27 Oct 2019, 03:14
T1 Terry wrote:
Sat, 26 Oct 2019, 10:58
The 85kWh battery would make an amazing off grid battery for when the vehicle was parked up ...... I'd love to be able to buy a Kona and work through making a plug and play set up to use that big battery pack in an off grid set up that supplemented a small permanent battery pack that kept the system alive while the EV wasn't plugged in.

T1 Terry
That sort of setup could lead to ducking down to the shops to buy some sparks, not milk. It’s strange that we are obsessed with cars that use much more energy as a house full of people.
The are a few shopping centres in Adelaide that give you 1 hr free parking while you are EV charging as a method of attracting shoppers and getting them to shop that bit longer while their car recharges. So you could nip down to the shops for an hr and bring back some power for the house along with the shopping :lol:

T1 Terry

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Mon, 28 Oct 2019, 15:13
by Samstain
T1 Terry wrote:
Mon, 28 Oct 2019, 14:59

The are a few shopping centres in Adelaide that give you 1 hr free parking while you are EV charging as a method of attracting shoppers and getting them to shop that bit longer while their car recharges. So you could nip down to the shops for an hr and bring back some power for the house along with the shopping :lol:
I was considering (not very seriously) sticking a couple stumpy storage HWS units in the back of my car (ICE at this stage unfortunately - might need a some EV stickers and an exhaust pipe trim to complete the illusion), to bring home a couple days of hot water at a time, the house is all electric, and is pretty efficient for uncontrolled load due to a grid connect system and a off grid system to run the essentials at night (about 2-3kWh import a day on average for the year) but the wife loves a hot bath, so goes through 8-10 kWh of hot water a day... storage hot water tanks are much cheaper than batteries for getting that energy home. :D

Re: Nissan Ariya

Posted: Mon, 28 Oct 2019, 17:54
by g4qber