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Post by notailpipe » Thu, 24 Oct 2013, 17:09

The current sale period for the Leaf ends on the 31st of Oct. With Nissan Australia seemingly still having a few of the current 2012 models in stock, what do you think they will do with pricing?

My thoughts:

1. Put price back up – not likely considering they are 2012 models.    
2. Keep price the same – probably most likely at this stage.
3. Push price down further – probably more like to happen next year if 2012 stock remains.

It will be interesting to see what they do, and also how they price the new model when/if they start importing it.

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Post by PlanB » Thu, 24 Oct 2013, 20:30

I really squirmed with this dilemma. I was tempted to wait for the 2013/14 model with the reverse cycle AC, the 7kw charger & the 80kg less metal to lug around but chickened out with 2013/14 pricing & numbers of 2012 models remaining so uncertain. $36.9k 9after a $2k trade on my 300,000km Mazda) was too hard to say no too.

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Post by Johny » Thu, 24 Oct 2013, 21:16

Does that mean you have bought it?

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Post by photomac » Tue, 29 Oct 2013, 17:23

I came within a trade-in's worth of buying this week. My not-so-old car is not-so-valuable :( - short by $4k (private sale required and will do so soon) Kids have their wings and my transporter has done a few, not-too-many K's. The two Perth dealers were convincingly certain no new models after the date of 31/10/13.   I now see there is a 2014 model due in USA soon so perhaps not until then? An observation, rumours of a 2015/16 model with up to 200 mile range. Perhaps an option like a Tesla. I did notice in the original model manufacturing video there is room underside towards the rear of the battery compartment for more cells.
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Post by notailpipe » Tue, 29 Oct 2013, 18:55

We put in our order yesturday (Northside, Perth).... we have a opt out clause in the contract should things change after the 31st (price deduction/new model announcement).

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Post by Feng » Tue, 29 Oct 2013, 19:02

Just as well you signed the opt-out clause, who knows what will happen after the 31st. The most recent buyer in our LEAF meet on the weekend reckons he test drove an upgraded LEAF because the boot was missing the hump where the charger is in the original model. When he enquired again later on he was told it got sold as an ex-demo, unsure if that was true or not. He ended up buying the original model LEAF.

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Post by PlanB » Tue, 29 Oct 2013, 19:50

Yeah I did Johnny, put up nearly 2000km on it this last month. I'd kill to see that new model with the charger in the front, what dealership was that Feng?

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Post by Feng » Tue, 29 Oct 2013, 19:56

The owner got his from Steve Jarvin in Burwood.

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Post by carnut1100 » Tue, 29 Oct 2013, 20:01

Would have loved to buy a Leaf....but the payments were just a smidge more tHan I could afford so I got an iMiev instead....

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Post by notailpipe » Tue, 29 Oct 2013, 21:05

When we were negotiating the deal we checked the availability of a few different colours, the dealer said that all colours are available from the Perth Depot meaning 1.5/2 weeks delivery. Seeing that they still have this much 2012 stock available in Perth, and I would think that there would be even more available in Syd and Melb, I doubt we will be seeing the new model anytime soon. Also the dealer would not really negotiate much on price with me, and was very happy to give the opt out clause without leaving any deposit. I think he knows that the current deal will remain in place for a while longer.

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Post by notailpipe » Mon, 04 Nov 2013, 16:08

Looks like the current promotion has been continued until the 31/12.

http://www.nissan.com.au/Offers/Offers

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Post by photomac » Mon, 04 Nov 2013, 18:10

haha-it changed! I was trying to see it change! NoTailPipe - which colour did you choose? I am tossing up between black or white. White is likely as the Australian model interior isn't as white as the Japanese pictures.
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Post by leighf » Mon, 04 Nov 2013, 18:51

photomac wrote: haha-it changed! I was trying to see it change! NoTailPipe - which colour did you choose? I am tossing up between black or white. White is likely as the Australian model interior isn't as white as the Japanese pictures.
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Post by notailpipe » Mon, 04 Nov 2013, 20:04

We are going for the blue

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Post by g4qber » Tue, 05 Nov 2013, 00:48

r u a senior notailpipe?

hopefully the average of EV owners is coming down
http://www.plugincars.com/leaf-average- ... 28635.html


http://www.wnyc.org/story/292665-who-li ... men-s-who/

will be interesting if Clive Palmer gets one.
probably a Tesla Model S for his stature.


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/elect ... er-2012-11

http://insideevs.com/infographic-the-ev ... le-owners/

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Post by Gabz » Tue, 05 Nov 2013, 02:42

g4qber wrote: r u a senior notailpipe?

Aged challenged ... only met one person in there 70s driving a leaf I assume the majority are 30-40.

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Post by notailpipe » Tue, 05 Nov 2013, 15:44

Not quite senior yet, my Wife and I are both 38.

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Post by photomac » Wed, 06 Nov 2013, 07:11

About to order - aged ( almost an invalid - 51 ) foolishly ordered my personalised number plate - RA VOLT - white on orange intended for a white LEAF. The final push - Saudi Arabia not allowing women to drive and the Sultan of Brunei allowing the childish, pathetic controller response of a hand for a hand punishment. Crikey! At least my LEAF will be powered by the sun - and the oil left for medicine, grease and plastic manufacturing - although Aurora Algae will soon change that too!
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Post by acmotor » Wed, 06 Nov 2013, 14:05

Good on you photomac ! Image
Laying out for a pure EV is still a quantum leap, but one you will be so happy with.

I often turn off the rhetoric of some folk, paticularly those in politics, who proudly trumpet their rejection of plastic bags at the shops and take their cloth ones along. Who discuss climate change on their veradah under their gas powered patio heater. You know the sort of thing.
In the end I just turn to them and ask, so, do you drive a pure electric vehicle and charge it off renewable energy ?
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Post by photomac » Wed, 06 Nov 2013, 14:34

Thanks ACmotor. I admire those who DIY - I have pondered but decided I am not confident to do one myself. When I take delivery I'll post a picture.   Yeah - those out door heaters drive me insane!!!
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Post by offgridQLD » Thu, 07 Nov 2013, 01:25

Token tree huggers,
              
Actually plastic bags are a reasonable efficient use of material for what they do.Even more so if you put them to double duty.

We had them In Maleny protesting about the new local Woolworths and how there was a platypus in the creek next to it. Yet they were happy to leave a pile of plastic tarps flapping around the place and crap strung up in the trees after the protest was over.

It's the same for people changing all the lights in the house for led so they can sit back and relax under there central AC and marvel at there earth saving LED lights.

My view is to start with the big things first then weed out the little things.Charging our EV for a 100km range uses 3x more energy than it takes to run out entire offgrid house for a day and a ev is way more efficient than a ice car so there is a lot to be saved in switching to a EV vs than any changes you could make around the house.

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Post by acmotor » Thu, 07 Nov 2013, 03:52

Well said Kurt. Image
Work on the big items... and then still pick up all the little ones in order of priority. It is fine to deal with the little ones as and when but the LED lights vs the AC system is a good example.

It seems to me that making or using plastic bags is Ok. It is the disposal in the environment that is the problem. So make them biodegradeable by legislation (direct action) and dispose of them wisely (after using them many times like Kurt does).

What was the topic again ? Oh yeah ... Leaf pricing. Image

edit: So how many 2012 leafs remain unsold ?
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Post by jonescg » Thu, 07 Nov 2013, 04:33

SEA are running a drive day with Nissan at the RAC driving centre. I wil make a separate post about it in a minute, but if you are on the edge of buying a leaf but still aren't quite sure, you should:
a) join the SEA so that you can
b) attend the event and take advantage of the 'on-the-day' sales on offer!
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Post by carnut1100 » Thu, 07 Nov 2013, 12:18

I would have gone for Leaf if
1) I had a smidge more cash available
2) prices were a little lower than $40k
3) I didn't get such a killer deal on the iMiev.

In all likelihood when I replace the iMiev It will be with a Leaf sized car but that won't be for a while.

As for energy saving, I've contracted (waiting for install....) 5kW of solar that would have totally replaced my power use....until I bought an EV!
I'm working on reducing energy use, and yes I am going LED....as each light blows it gets replaced with LED. Not replacing perfectly good lights for no reason, especially when the old ones die regularly anyhow!
switching to gas hot water next year will free up enough power to run the iMiev and be power neutral again.
I am slowly working through each room renovating them, and each one will be well insulated when I am finished which will mean no electric heating in bedrooms in winter...and I don't have aircon!
Every drop counts....but the cheapest kW is the one you didn't use!

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Post by acmotor » Thu, 07 Nov 2013, 16:06

IMHO
Don't switch to gas HWS. That isn't helping reduce fossil fuel usage/CO2 production. It is turning a blind eye to the overall energy consumption equation.
Just add a few extra PVs and run a well located and insulated storage electric HWS. Select a low kW element, probably 1800W is the lowest and put it on a timer. That way you are going in the right direction.

BTW, by aircon I guess folk consider reverse cycle. That is the best heating per kW you can get as it is a heat pump with 300% to 500% kW heat out for kW electricity in. (if you need heating, I guess Hobart doesn't call for much cooling)

BTW also to add to your leaf list.... they use at least 50% more energy for the same distance as an iMiEV. I tested this on my usual run. It would have added 36kWh to my daily consumption ! You need to be ready for this if you are trying for energy independence.
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