I want to convert a car!

Technical discussion on converting internal combustion to electric
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Post by alex » Sun, 28 Oct 2007, 00:22

Hey

I've decided I want to convert a car, but not my Mazda3!
I will buy a 2nd hand car, but I'd like to be able to buy the car AND do the conversion for under $15k AU, is it possible?

I heard the Hyundai Getz is a good car for the job, but it looks like it would be hard to fit the electric motor and the batteries in!

Also, what kind of kit should I be after? These look good:
http://www.beepscom.com/category_s/114.htm
I think I could even get away with this Kit:
http://www.beepscom.com/product_p/ki-17.5-96-144.htm

And according to google:
2625.00 U.S. dollars = 2902.15589 Australian dollars

With the $885.75 US shipping (Cheapest shipping to Australia), it would cost all up:

3510.77 U.S. dollars = 3881.44831 Australian dollars
And that gets me an Electric Motor + Controller.

Is it worth it, or are there cheaper distributors?

I suppose the other thing I need is some kind of accelerator potentiometer, and a vacuum pump for the brakes, and that should be all, right?

Then I suppose:
1) Take out the engine and all associated crap
2) Get a plate thing made up to connect electric motor to the gearbox
3) Put it all in.

Perhaps thats a little too simplified though!

So, $6000 car + $3900 Motor + Controller = $9900
And I've still got to get POT Box, Vacuum pump, batteries, and adapter plate. How much are these 4 things gonna cost?

Perhaps I need to find a cheaper car. Whats the best car between price and "modern" and suitability (eg: Light, Safe)?

Note: I'm also posting this on the DIY EV forums: http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/sh ... p/want-con vert-electric-car-3887.html
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Post by acmotor » Sun, 28 Oct 2007, 05:28

Hey Alex,

Keep doing plenty of homework before you start.
What ever budget you thing of starting with, it will cost more in the end.... and don't build an electric car thinking it is going to save money. But you will get lots of pleasure out of it !

There is no 'most suitable car' though some are easier than others to convert.
I would not choose an older vehicle as you will spend much of you time just fixing it.

Simplest and cheapest conversions are DC with lead acid batteries. The budget you have in mind will cover that and you will be able to produce a quite functional short range vehicle.
AC with lithium batteries with give the best range and efficiency and longevity but may cost up to 50k.

Check out the links on this website and others for more info.
Come along to WAEVA events and drive EVs and talk to the 'converted'

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Post by Simon » Mon, 29 Oct 2007, 02:47


>With the $885.75 US shipping (Cheapest shipping to >Australia), it would cost all up:
>
>3510.77 U.S. dollars = 3881.44831 Australian dollars
>And that gets me an Electric Motor + Controller.
>
>Is it worth it, or are there cheaper distributors?

Also don't forget that you will have to pay 10% GST + customs duty on top of that.

>I suppose the other thing I need is some kind of accelerator potentiometer, and a vacuum pump for the brakes, and that should be all, right?

Then you need a charger, fuses, contactors, instruments etc
I found this link to Blade Electric Vehicles which might be useful for advice on converting a Getz.
http://www.bev.com.au/




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Post by alex » Mon, 29 Oct 2007, 04:56

Hey guys,
Better off taking a look at this thread to see the discussion that has occured:
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/sh ... p/want-con vert-electric-car-3887.html

The guy from BEV offered me the original prototype Getz with Lithium batteries for 28k, but it is 6 months old and done a few thousand km.

Its probably better to make my own? I just won't end up with Lithium batteries. I think my biggest worry will be getting it registered though!

But gee, I'm getting a bit ahead of myself I think!

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Post by alex » Mon, 29 Oct 2007, 04:58

Hmm, I wish this forum had an option to email me when people post!

Hmm, if there are any WAEVA events in QLD (or QLDEVA events :P), I'd certainly turn up!

I don't know if there's enough interest for a QLD-only one at the moment though

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Post by jpcw » Mon, 29 Oct 2007, 22:33

What I did for a car was to talk to my local car yard, one that deals in higher priced cars. What they do is when a cheap car comes in for a trade-in they move it on at wholesale prices to a cheaper car yard. Mine was more than happy to keep an eye out for a good small car and give it to me at wholesale prices. Cost me $400 for a 1992 Daihatsu Charade in excellent condition. Explain to them what you are doing and offer to give them some exposure when the car is built.
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Post by alex » Tue, 30 Oct 2007, 00:36

Thats so crazy it might just work!

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Post by Andrew » Fri, 11 Jan 2008, 23:47

alex wrote: Hmm, I wish this forum had an option to email me when people post!


it does now i'm proud to say Image

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