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    Posted: 17 October 2008 at 11:01am


Any ideas???

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  Quote evkartalex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 October 2008 at 12:28pm
daihatsus are popular

G11 chassis is easy to convert, as much the same as a G100 chassis

other people have used G100 chassis

i plan to use either a L80 mira or G11 charade myself

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  Quote Richo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 October 2008 at 4:42pm
The one that is cheap with a (near)dead motor.

The lighter and more aerodynamic it is will mean less(small) requirements on battery/motor for the same performance.

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  Quote antiscab Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2008 at 12:14am
other choices:
honda insight
toyota mr2
toyota prius (has heavy drivetrain that can be removed)
fiat fsm nikki 126
mazda mx5
suzuki mightboy
any ute
vehicles with heavy drivetrains (such as hybrids, or iron block V8s)

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  Quote Richo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2008 at 4:00pm
There is a mini 850 and a niki in this weeks Quokka.
Both around $1000.

datto 1200 ute on e-bay in WA but is too rusty unless your very keen.


Old style Fairlane have heaps of room for batteries if you want a long range cruizer.

They're all good - any eV is better than a petrol burner.
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I hear the BMW's are good to convert


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  Quote Richo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 October 2008 at 1:18pm
How about a 86 Toyota Corolla

Lots of spares and licenced at $50 you can't go wrong!

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  Quote woody Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 October 2008 at 6:34pm
Something that you'll be happy dribing for the next 5-10 years

I like older cars - if you pull out the ICE, everything else still works - instruments, steering, brakes. They also tend to be lighter. A '62 Valiant weights less than a new convertible mini.

New cars have safety and airbags and stuff, if you like that :-)

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  Quote Richo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 October 2008 at 2:24pm
'84 ALFA ROMEO 33 GCL

Motor seized so going cheap!

Buy it - you know you want to
$750 is a steal
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I have Holden BARINA EASY TO FIT ALL AND PLENTY OF ROOM FOR 96 VOLT AGM BATTERY SYSTEM and 9.2 inch 8.5 Kw motor. Barina is ideal for conversion I have almost finished conversion -tomorrow will be the test.. apart from gauges and small details like connecting demister and battery box ventilation fan its all done and i did buy woolen seat covers and a AEVA shirt and still under $ 6000

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  Quote Richo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 October 2008 at 4:08pm
Since this link has been moved from the PERTH area most of the cars discussed above are from PERTH so please ignore them if you are in other states.
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  Quote EV1day Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 October 2008 at 9:05am
Ok. Looking at a 2001 Daewoo Matiz. Small, fairly aerodynamic and 4 seats. Anyone done a conversion with this car?

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  Quote Goombi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 October 2008 at 10:25am
72 volt only and batteries where the back seat is making it a 2 seater Matis is very light It is the smallest vehicle that was on the market --since doscontinued. If 72 volt will suit you then go for it first measure the gearbox and motor lenght and see if you can fit 300mm long el motor..without demolishing the main frame Try- Charade, barina, Echo
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  Quote sparau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 October 2008 at 10:35am
i bought a cheap peugeot 205gti with the idea of converting when i can magically get hold of 22K...

a bit heavier than some of the other options but probably a bit safer when the tool crashes their 4wd into you.
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Sparau, please forget about 4x4 vehicles running into you. By the time you finish making it there won't be any 4x4

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  Quote Thalass Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2008 at 11:28pm
No 4WD? Not if I can help it! heh. Most of the guys I know will go to their grave before giving up 4x4.
I'll drive an electric vehicle one day.
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  Quote bga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2008 at 6:36pm
Don't forget about pesky car electronics. Usually not an issue for older cars, but newer models may be problematic. The body computer may refuse to cooperate after the engine is terminated, making the car kind of useless.

I have thought that a recent, lead filled, commodore would be a good target from the point of view of having a neat graphics display in the middle of the dashboard, but subduing the various computers is likely to be a ugly affair that's harder than designing them in the first place was. After all that, the conformodore is seriously heavy at 1650Kg, making the drive and batteries an epic.

Some research is needed, because it won't be long before computers and electronic stuff become the norm in donor vehicles.


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  Quote fuzzy-hair-man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 December 2008 at 3:33pm
If you were going for a modern car I reckon a Toyota Paseo would make a pretty good EV, it got good aero (0.32 coefficient drag and 1.7m2 frontal area) and it's reasonably light at 939kg.

It does have power steering and disks so therefore would need a vacumn pump and power steering pump, but hey you can't have everything. GVM is 1349kg so there's a little bit to play with for batteries. However it's an alloy block and head so you probably won't loose as much weight as if it were cast iron...
And IMO Toyota generally build good solid cars.

A quick look found them for as low as $3000
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GVM pretty heavy anything smaller?

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  Quote Richo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 December 2008 at 3:53pm
Ding Bob Trike certified frame.
Light and ready to put emotor and batteries in.
$4500.

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  Quote fuzzy-hair-man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 December 2008 at 4:20pm
Originally posted by Goombi

GVM pretty heavy anything smaller?


GVM is the load / maximum weight capacity, the curb weight is 939kg.

I hadn't seen many modern cars make it under the 1000kgs for curb weight but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.

What did your Barina start out weighting? Ah found it 780ish kg (94) is good! I thought the Barina must have been somewhere near the 1000kg to start so I was wondering how you kept the weight down.

I'm an old car and mini fan myself so if I did an electric car I think I'd do a mini.
A Datsun 1200 Coupe would be a good proposition too everything Nissan/Datsun seems to swap over easily so the suspension from a 1200 ute would probably swap straight over if it isn't the same already, but then again I never looked.

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  Quote Goombi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 December 2008 at 4:32pm
Mini OK.. I like it.. its all very nice to go with older cars but you will live in a EV for years to come so barina's- mazda 121- Charade- are relatively modern cars and if no rust will see you out   

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  Quote fuzzy-hair-man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 December 2008 at 5:35pm
A mini is the car I'd drive out of choice at least until I have to go long distance or fit more stuff in, so I could live with a mini quite easily (well I sort of do already).
A lot of the things in modern cars rather annoy me just extra kruft to get you to buy the latest model which is really no better than the last one IMO . (others probably differ)

I sometimes think this might be one of the reasons why car manufacturers don't much want to go electric, once you make a car that is 80% or whatever efficient and has a motor which will last almost forever (I read a Semiens had a warranty for 15 years) then what's the point of buying a new car? In practical terms it can't really be that much better than the old one can it? I'd keep the old one and run it till the wheels fall off and save my money for more worthwhile things.

My rather biased opinion is more cars should be like the mini bare bones, minimalist, great handling and practical. In fact for a conversion a mini could be relatively easy, no brake booster, no air conditioner, no power steering, no heater, no radio (although I'd hook up something to plug my MP3 into so I can have some tunes) , a heavy cast iron block and head and a fair lump of a gearbox, and a starting weight of ~600kg.

Issues would be awful aero drag (0.53) and where to stick enough batteries. It's a commuter though so it should be kept around 60km/hr most of the time anyway... and maybe I'll get rid of the back seats.

I think I've liked minis since I saw a family of 4 somehow disappear inside one.
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--MINImalist and bare bone cenversion I am with you all the way but be very carefull you will be critisised for creating plebayan society.
There are people here that love their EX habit from comforts of ICE...

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