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EV1day
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Topic: Good Donor car??Posted: 17 October 2008 at 11:01am |
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Any ideas??? Thanks, Scott |
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evkartalex
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Joined: 15 October 2008 Location: Perth, WA Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
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Posted: 17 October 2008 at 12:28pm |
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daihatsus are popular
G11 chassis is easy to convert, as much the same as a G100 chassis other people have used G100 chassis i plan to use either a L80 mira or G11 charade myself regards alex |
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Richo
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Posted: 17 October 2008 at 4:42pm |
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The one that is cheap with a (near)dead motor.
The lighter and more aerodynamic it is will mean less(small) requirements on battery/motor for the same performance. Celica Mustang |
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antiscab
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Posted: 18 October 2008 at 12:14am |
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other choices:
honda insight toyota mr2 toyota prius (has heavy drivetrain that can be removed) fiat fsm nikki 126 mazda mx5 suzuki mightboy any ute vehicles with heavy drivetrains (such as hybrids, or iron block V8s) Matt Matt |
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Richo
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Posted: 18 October 2008 at 4:00pm |
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There is a mini 850 and a niki in this weeks Quokka.
Both around $1000. datto 1200 ute on e-bay in WA but is too rusty unless your very keen. Old style Fairlane have heaps of room for batteries if you want a long range cruizer. They're all good - any eV is better than a petrol burner. |
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Richo
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Posted: 18 October 2008 at 11:13pm |
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Richo
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Posted: 20 October 2008 at 1:18pm |
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woody
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Posted: 20 October 2008 at 6:34pm |
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Something that you'll be happy dribing for the next 5-10 years
I like older cars - if you pull out the ICE, everything else still works - instruments, steering, brakes. They also tend to be lighter. A '62 Valiant weights less than a new convertible mini. New cars have safety and airbags and stuff, if you like that :-) cheers, Woody |
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Richo
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Posted: 22 October 2008 at 2:13pm |
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Richo
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Posted: 22 October 2008 at 2:24pm |
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Goombi
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Posted: 22 October 2008 at 3:50pm |
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I have Holden BARINA EASY TO FIT ALL AND PLENTY OF ROOM FOR 96 VOLT AGM BATTERY SYSTEM and 9.2 inch 8.5 Kw motor. Barina is ideal for conversion I have almost finished conversion -tomorrow will be the test.. apart from gauges and small details like connecting demister and battery box ventilation fan its all done and i did buy woolen seat covers and a AEVA shirt and still under $ 6000
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Richo
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Posted: 22 October 2008 at 4:08pm |
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Since this link has been moved from the PERTH area most of the cars discussed above are from PERTH so please ignore them if you are in other states.
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EV1day
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Posted: 31 October 2008 at 9:05am |
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Ok. Looking at a 2001 Daewoo Matiz. Small, fairly aerodynamic and 4 seats. Anyone done a conversion with this car?
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Goombi
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Posted: 31 October 2008 at 10:25am |
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72 volt only and batteries where the back seat is making it a 2 seater Matis is very light It is the smallest vehicle that was on the market --since doscontinued. If 72 volt will suit you then go for it first measure the gearbox and motor lenght and see if you can fit 300mm long el motor..without demolishing the main frame Try- Charade, barina, Echo
Fiesta, cars that hold around 1300cc motors should be suitable most Cheers |
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sparau
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Posted: 31 October 2008 at 10:35am |
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i bought a cheap peugeot 205gti with the idea of converting when i can magically get hold of 22K...
a bit heavier than some of the other options but probably a bit safer when the tool crashes their 4wd into you. |
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Goombi
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Posted: 31 October 2008 at 10:40am |
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Sparau, please forget about 4x4 vehicles running into you. By the time you finish making it there won't be any 4x4
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Thalass
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Posted: 30 November 2008 at 11:28pm |
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No 4WD? Not if I can help it! heh. Most of the guys I know will go to their grave before giving up 4x4.
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I'll drive an electric vehicle one day.
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bga
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Posted: 01 December 2008 at 6:36pm |
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Don't forget about pesky car electronics. Usually not an issue for older cars, but newer models may be problematic. The body computer may refuse to cooperate after the engine is terminated, making the car kind of useless.
I have thought that a recent, lead filled , commodore would be a good target from the point of view of having a neat graphics display in the middle of the dashboard, but subduing the various computers is likely to be a ugly affair that's harder than designing them in the first place was. After all that, the conformodore is seriously heavy at 1650Kg, making the drive and batteries an epic.
Some research is needed, because it won't be long before computers and electronic stuff become the norm in donor vehicles. Cheers BGA Edited by bga - 01 December 2008 at 6:38pm |
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fuzzy-hair-man
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 3:33pm |
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If you were going for a modern car I reckon a Toyota Paseo would make a pretty good EV, it got good aero (0.32 coefficient drag and 1.7m2 frontal area) and it's reasonably light at 939kg.
It does have power steering and disks so therefore would need a vacumn pump and power steering pump, but hey you can't have everything. GVM is 1349kg so there's a little bit to play with for batteries. However it's an alloy block and head so you probably won't loose as much weight as if it were cast iron...
And IMO Toyota generally build good solid cars. A quick look found them for as low as $3000 |
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Goombi
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 3:39pm |
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GVM pretty heavy anything smaller?
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Richo
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 3:53pm |
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fuzzy-hair-man
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 4:20pm |
GVM is the load / maximum weight capacity, the curb weight is 939kg.
I hadn't seen many modern cars make it under the 1000kgs for curb weight but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places. What did your Barina start out weighting? Ah found it 780ish kg (94) is good! I thought the Barina must have been somewhere near the 1000kg to start so I was wondering how you kept the weight down. I'm an old car and mini fan myself so if I did an electric car I think I'd do a mini. A Datsun 1200 Coupe would be a good proposition too everything Nissan/Datsun seems to swap over easily so the suspension from a 1200 ute would probably swap straight over if it isn't the same already, but then again I never looked. Edited by fuzzy-hair-man - 02 December 2008 at 4:21pm |
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Goombi
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 4:32pm |
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Mini OK.. I like it.. its all very nice to go with older cars but you will live in a EV for years to come so barina's- mazda 121- Charade- are relatively modern cars and if no rust will see you out
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fuzzy-hair-man
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 5:35pm |
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A mini is the car I'd drive out of choice at least until I have to go long distance or fit more stuff in, so I could live with a mini quite easily (well I sort of do already).
A lot of the things in modern cars rather annoy me just extra kruft to get you to buy the latest model which is really no better than the last one IMO . (others probably differ)
I sometimes think this might be one of the reasons why car manufacturers don't much want to go electric, once you make a car that is 80% or whatever efficient and has a motor which will last almost forever (I read a Semiens had a warranty for 15 years) then what's the point of buying a new car? In practical terms it can't really be that much better than the old one can it? I'd keep the old one and run it till the wheels fall off and save my money for more worthwhile things. My rather biased opinion is more cars should be like the mini bare bones, minimalist, great handling and practical. In fact for a conversion a mini could be relatively easy, no brake booster, no air conditioner, no power steering, no heater, no radio (although I'd hook up something to plug my MP3 into so I can have some tunes) , a heavy cast iron block and head and a fair lump of a gearbox, and a starting weight of ~600kg.
Issues would be awful aero drag (0.53) and where to stick enough batteries. It's a commuter though so it should be kept around 60km/hr most of the time anyway... and maybe I'll get rid of the back seats. I think I've liked minis since I saw a family of 4 somehow disappear inside one.
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Goombi
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 7:04pm |
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--MINImalist and bare bone cenversion I am with you all the way but be very carefull you will be critisised for creating plebayan society.
There are people here that love their EX habit from comforts of ICE...
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